diet as prevention

wefightcancer · New User Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Iowa, USA

Hello.

I don't believe there will ever be a way to totally prevent cancer, instead believing that we will sooner find a cure. In my opinion there is more emphasis being put on building more/larger hospitals to treat a disease than there is being put on preventing it from ever occurring. I also think that many in this post are correct, however, in believing that there are ways to reduce your chances of getting cancer by diet and exercise. Having watched my sister go through chemo and radiation for Non-Hodgkins lymphoma, I am now obsessed with knowing as much as I can about prevention. Hopefully, it will pay off in the long run.

You can read more about food,supplements and cancer prevention at these sites:
The Cancer Project: http://www.cancerproject.org

National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion:
http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/

Vee Smith · Moderator Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 797 Location: UK

One of the earliest accounts I have read in which diet and exercise reversed a cancer was published in the 1920s. The author, diagnosed with a stomach cancer and having led a sedentary life and eaten largely red meats and carbohydrates, took to eating a largely vegetable diet, with a little meat, and took to walking, building up to 10 miles a day. His cancer disappeared and he lived a full and active life.

However, so much has changed in the world in the way of pollutants and foods that it is no longer quite so simple. Diet is clearly important as is reasonable exercise, but they are not the only things that affect prevention or development and treatment of the disease.

mannearth · New User Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 3

Is your fruits and vegetables organic? I do believe, the pesticide residue has some sort of cancer causing effect in the body. Different people have different level of sensitivity to these chemicals, some are more tolerant that the others.

[quote="ElaineC"]I wouldn't hold out too much hope on diet and exercise if I were you. I've been a vegetarian for 30 years, eating a wholefood, high fibre diet and yet two years ago I was diagnosed with bowel cancer. There's a lot of bowel cancer in my family and it seems the genes were stronger than my diet. In the ultimate irony in spite of living a much healthier life than my relatives who died from this disease I developed it around 10 years earlier than any of them did.

I also am a regular swimmer who was doing 1000 metres a day of the pool when I was diagnosed.

It makes me think that there are other more important factors at work here. Don't let this discourage anyone from taking up a more healthy diet but don't believe it will necessarily prevent cancer as I did. Sad

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Richard Day Gore · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: diet as prevention

Everyone is different (at least until cloning and genetic uber-engineering become the norm) so there probably won't ever be a cure-all for cancer. That said, anything you can do to reduce your risk of any disease is a no-brainer, so why not. I mean, why do you think they call it "a healthy diet"?

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Fruit lady · New User Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 4

[quote="Kimc"]I have recently met 2 gals (one with stage 4 melanoma and 1 with stage 4 breast ca) who have successfully gone on a total vegan diet. (one called it the ph miracle diet ..author is "young" I believe..the other the "halleluja diet" and I have no clue the source of this one) They both report they are in full remission; one for 25 years and one for 3 years. Neither one opted for chemo. They eat mostly raw veggies and whole grains. No dairy , sugar, white flour or yeast what so ever. They both look good and feel great. Have any of you heard of good results with this kind of diet? Kim[/quote]

ABSOLUTELY I've heard of it! Read Race for Life and Senior Fitness
I too, have adopted this diet. Cancer runs in my family and I had several pap smears where the doctor wanted to put me under and burn all the cells off. I opted OUT, made changes have had perfect paps since.

I STRONGLY believe that one must be "radical" when it comes to cancer prevention. By radical I mean - just do it! Cut out alcohol first and foremost, eat LOTS of green leafy veggies - zero added oils EXCEPT some nuts and avocados (but NO MORE than 10% of one's diet should be fat) tons of fruit and if desired (although I rarely eat them) whole grains. Try to make most of your meals have raw fruits and veggies - but don't worry if you eat some of the veggies and legumes cooked. Just watch sodium intake.

I also exercise daily.

I think it is a step in getting people aware.

Best to you all,
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interval · Regular Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 37

In the light of a new study at at Anderson Cancer Center in Houston high fat diets are associated with cancers, especially to prostate cancer. Read fpr more info

http://www.prostate-report.org/__high_fat_diet_associated_to_prostate_cancer.php

brainman · Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: Re: diet as prevention

Since I cannot find a "Andreson Cancer Center in Houston," either this was a study done it MD Anderson Cancer Center or it was a study done by a very small organization trying to take advantage of the excellent reputation of MD Anderson. But any knowledgeable editor would have seen this error.

Since the link is a second hand report and since I was unable to find an original source for this information, all sorts of red flags go up in my mind about its validity. A Google search did not even find a website for the International Journal of Cancer. I do not doubt that a lower fat diet would be beneficial for us. I am just not sure how much I can trust the organization providing this information. If you do have a link to the original article, I would be most interested in reading it.
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Vee Smith · Moderator Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 797 Location: UK

Hi, Jim - It's published by Wiley - this is the information: http://tinyurl.com/4k8ece

It's a reputable publication with a highly academic flavour Cool

interval · Regular Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 37

Here is another link pointing almost the same content
http://www.whnz.com/cc-common/news/sections/lifestylearticle.html?feed=104777&article=3664673

brainman · Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: Re: diet as prevention

Thank you both for these links. interval, your second link is much better than the first... and least it properly identified MD Anderson as the center that has conducted the study. I will have to look for that journal at my local oncologist's office or hospital medical library to read the full report. Vee, if you have access to that Journal, could you scan that article and email it to me? If that is not possible or if it is not legal, forget it. Thanks guys.
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interval · Regular Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 37

Here it is another information linked to prostate cancer prevention by lowering dietary fat

http://prostate-report.org/blog/prostate-[xxxxx]/lowering-dietary-fat-may-help-prevent-prostate-cancer

ChemoMan · Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: diet as prevention

Hi

The only way to prevent cancer is to not be born. All of us produce cancer cells every single day of our lives but normally the immune system picks them up and destroys them. We will never be able to 'prevent" cancer but we may cure all cancers one day.

We can reduce our risks but we cannot "prevent" cancer. A high fat diet has been implicated in lots of cancers. An avoidance of a high fat diet has been proven to have lots of benefits to ones health, particularly in regard to the cardiovascular system so I would say high fat diets are to be avoided if one wants good health, but don't think you wont get cancer just because you have a low fat diet, plenty of non smokers who have lung cancer can shoot down that logic!

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Vee Smith · Moderator Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 797 Location: UK

Certainly the number of people that develop cancers despite being vegetarian or vegan rather indicates that diet alone does not prevent cancer.

pbj11 · Site Admin Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 1302

Sorry -- but the above post I see as dangerous. You don't opt out of chemo in favor of juicing or any of the PH scams that are being perpetrated on the internet.

Lifestyle changes obviously can cut your risks for developing cancer, but there is no substantive evidence that any of the above can cure cancer and it's dangerous to abandon traditional treatment for unproved alternatives, in my opinion and the opinion of most doctors/studies.
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interval · Regular Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 37

Of course, the diet alone cannot prevent cancer, but a diet rich in red meat, sugar and alcohol increases the risk of developing cancer.

Regarding vegetables. The top five causing cancer foods are red meat, sugar, soft drinks, charred food and alcohol.
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