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Jester
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Hi DocSeiwert (or anyone else who has an opinion on this subject),
I am investigating a number of conventional treatments at the moment for my father who has Peritoneal mesothelioma. Due to the problem with my father eating (dealing with burp-wind, mucus, vomitting, loss of appetite, weight loss, etc), in his weakened state, the number of these options are virtually zero. He has palliative care and that's about it.
So, a Googling we go and have been for some time now researching away on every controversial treatment going. Hydrazine Sulfate is certainly controversial. I think the ratio of miracle cure to dangerously stupid thing to do is about 80/20 in it's favour from what I've read so far.
So, I know where to get it from and apart from a thousand and one things you can't consume with it and the hundred and one conspiracy theories. the question becomes...
Is it safe to consume? |
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brainman
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Jester
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Hi Brainman
I wish I had a medical team to consult with! I live in the UK and let's say that it's not quite as forward thinking as you guys in the US. The only way to get something done around here when the mainstream is of the opinion that it's time to go home and die quietly, is to pick up the phone, research and email.
Certain people over here didn't even know what intraperitoneal hyperthermic chemotherapy was, let alone where in the UK it could be done. I am making headway (to an extent) with a request to UCLA and a Peritonectomy expert in Milan, but in all honesty I think these treatments will dead end for one reason or another. I guess despite my enthusiasm to have got this far, my background won't allow me not to have a backup plan.
Hence the post on HS, and I have to say at this point the Cesium Chloride protocol gets a worse Internet ratio rap at about 50/50 miracle/dangerous, but people on this site are actively using it!
So, I keep going, finding communities like this, with (I have say with a big smile) great experiences and information, because I won't give up. |
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Vee Smith
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Hydrazine Sulfate |
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Hi- don't be too hasty. There are plenty of people in the UK who are seeking answers and are pretty forward thinking. Have a look at this site: http://www.canceractive.com/
They are really active in researching all approaches to cancer treatment, and have an excellent database of information. They are also proactive in that they will usually research anything new that someone comes up with. |
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ChemoMan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Hydrazine Sulfate |
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Hi jester
Hydrazine sulphate has approval to be used in clinical trials in the US. It does not have approval to be used as a cancer treatment. So far the results are not promising, it has shown some benefits in reducing anorexia and cachexia, but no effect on cancer growth or tumour reduction. Currently it is sold as a dietary supplement in the US and as such it would be safe to consume.
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Jester
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Hydrazine Sulfate |
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[quote="Vee Smith"]Hi- don't be too hasty. There are plenty of people in the UK who are seeking answers and are pretty forward thinking. Have a look at this site: http://www.canceractive.com/
They are really active in researching all approaches to cancer treatment, and have an excellent database of information. They are also proactive in that they will usually research anything new that someone comes up with.[/quote]
Thanks Vee, I have come across this site before, but I have to say dismissed it for a number of reasons, the main one being Money.
I have some experience of internet marketing and this site, although I'm sure has the very best of intentions is built around an upsell, nothing there seems to be free and Mesothelioma isn't even listed in 'Your Cancer'.
By all means let me know if I'm being overly harsh on this one. |
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Jester
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Hydrazine Sulfate |
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[quote="ChemoMan"]Hi jester
Hydrazine sulphate has approval to be used in clinical trials in the US. It does not have approval to be used as a cancer treatment. So far the results are not promising, it has shown some benefits in reducing anorexia and cachexia, but no effect on cancer growth or tumour reduction. Currently it is sold as a dietary supplement in the US and as such it would be safe to consume.[/quote]
Hi ChemoMan,
I have read some articles that do report tumor reduction.
{links deleted by admin. You can't use links to other sites until you have been a member for at least 1 month and posted at least 10 messages.}
It's no wonder there is so much confusion.
I am interested in HS even if it only addresses cachexia as my father has gone from 13st to 9st, I just don't want to do anything to put his life in danger trying to help him...! |
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ChemoMan
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:59 am Post subject: Re: Hydrazine Sulfate |
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Hi
The results I gave were from clinical trials, and no reduction in tumour size was observed.
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Jester
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: Re: Hydrazine Sulfate |
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Hi CM,
Which specific clinical trial was that, or are you just refering in general to all of them? |
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Vee Smith
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Hydrazine Sulfate |
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[quote="Jester"]
dismissed it for a number of reasons, the main one being Money.
I have some experience of internet marketing and this site, although I'm sure has the very best of intentions is built around an upsell, nothing there seems to be free and Mesothelioma isn't even listed in 'Your Cancer'.
By all means let me know if I'm being overly harsh on this one.[/quote]
A little harsh. They are a charity, so there is an element of fund-raising, but they are also the only UK source of unbiased information on a wide range of topics. Originally the founder was searching for means of helping his daughter overcome brain tumours. Following her death, he shifted the focus onto prevention and reporting anything to do with cancer and its treatment.
This is their page on mesothelioma: http://www.canceractive.com/page.php?n=2015 |
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